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"THE histories of the mechanical clock and the magnetic compass must be accounted amongst the most tortured of all our efforts to understand the origins of man's important inventions. Ignorance has too often been replaced by conjecture, and conjecture by misquotation and the false authority of "common knowledge" engendered by the repetition of legendary histories from one generation of textbooks to the next. In what follows, I can only hope that the adding of a strong new trail and the eradication of several false and weaker ones will lead us nearer to a balanced and integrated understanding of medieval invention and the intercultural transmission of ideas.
For the mechanical clock, perhaps the greatest hindrance has been its treatment within a self-contained "history of time measurement" in which sundials, water-clocks and similar devices assume the natural role of ancestors to the weight-driven escapement clock in the early 14th century.1 This view must presume that a generally sophisticated knowledge of gearing antedates the invention of the clock and extends back to the Classical period cf Hero and Vitruvius and such authors well-known for their mechanical ingenuities.
Furthermore, even if one admits the use of clocklike gearing before the existence of the clock, it is still 83necessary to look for the independent inventions of the weight-drive and of the mechanical escapement. The first of these may seem comparatively trivial; anyone familiar with the raising of heavy loads by means of ropes and pulley could surely recognize the possibility of using such an arrangement in reverse as a source of steady power. Nevertheless, the use of this device is not recorded before its association with hydraulic and perpetual motion machines in the manuscripts of Ri?wan, ca. 1200, and its use in a clock using such a perpetual motion wheel (mercury filled) as a clock escapement, in the astronomical codices of Alfonso the Wise, King of Castile, ca. 1272.
The second invention, that of the mechanical escapement, has presented one of the most tantalizing of problems. Without doubt, the crown and foliot type of escapement appears to be the first complicated mechanical invention known to the European Middle Ages; it heralds our whole age of machine-making. Yet no trace has been found either of a steady evolution of such escapements or of their invention in Europe, though the astronomical clock powered by a water wheel and governed by an escapement-like device had been elaborated in China for several centuries before the first appearance of our clocks. We must now rehearse a revised story of the origin of the clock as it has been suggested by recent researches on the history of gearing and on Chinese and other astronomical machines. After this we shall for the first time present evidence to show that this story is curiously related to that of the Perpetuum Mobile, one of the great chimeras of science, that came from its medieval origin to play an important part in more recent developments of energetics and the foundations of thermodynamics.2 It is a curious mixture, all the more so because, tangled inextricably in it, we shall find the most important and earliest references to the use of the magnetic compass in the West. It seems that in revising the histories of clockwork and the magnetic compass, these considerations of perpetual motion devices may provide some much needed evidence."
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I'm confused why a perpetual motion device wont work b/c of HOW it violates the 1st and 2nd laws. I guess b/c i dont understand the laws very well
Best Answer The main confusion is that "perpetual motion device" doesn't mean what it appears to mean. Classically, a perpetual motion device is one of two things: 1) something that continues to operate even as you extract useful work from it. It's not just something that spins forever, but it's something that pumps water forever, or runs an electric light forever, or drives a car forever, without any renewal of fuel or other energy source. 2) something that loses energy to friction, but, by some technique, extracts all the energy from the heat and uses it to replace its lost energy, so that it never spins down. For the first case, when you think of it as "something that runs forever without spinning down", well, physics doesn't forbid that. An object spinning around in a perfect vacuum in an empty universe would not be violating the laws of thermodynamics by spinning forever. However, if it were being used to power a light bulb, and the light shone even while the object didn't change in any way, then there is energy coming from nowhere, and that is a violation of the laws of physics. This is the first law case, a machine that just keeps creating energy. Now, the second law case is a bit trickier. Let's say you had a wheel that was spinning. It would start to spin more and more slowly, as its motion is lost to heating up the air and heating up the axle around which it is spinning. So, somebody might ask if there is a way to take that heat and use it to speed up the wheel again. That is, to convert that heat back to mechanical energy with 100% efficiency. This is forbidden by the second law, which sets an upper limit on the efficiency with which you can extract energy from a temperature difference.
i have developed a prototype device that uses several means of power generation without any external sources. meaning it runs on it's own power continuously without stopping. what are the chances of getting patent approval.
Best Answer Not a drop. Secondly, considering man has been trying for the last 80 years and has consistently failed in this endeavor, I'd bet the bank on yours being a pipe dream also. In order to produce perpetual motion, you would have to defy the natural laws of physics. There may be a place in the universe this is possible, but it damn sure ain't here.
Dear yahoo. I think I just made a perpetual motion thing. If I leave the water on in the sink the floating wooden spoon keeps moving back and forth in the exact same way every time. Did I just make science?
Best Answer Perpetual motion devices are physically impossible due to the Law of Conservation of Energy. In any mechanical device you will have some energy that is lost due to friction. Friction generally creates heat which is transferred to the environment increasing the ambient energy. So the answer to your question is no. The water flowing into the sink is creating the motion and you do NOT want to know how much energy is is taking to get that water to come out of your faucet.

